Soft-Lite Windows Complaints

Soft-Lite windows complaints can be caused by several factors. If you’re considering buying these windows it’s worthwhile to understand what makes some customers unhappy. With that knowledge you should be able to make a decision regarding which windows to purchase with less stress.

So, let’s find out what causes customers to be unhappy about Soft-Lite windows.

What causes Soft-Lite windows complaints?

Believe it or not the majority of the Soft-Lite windows complaints that I’ve heard have more to do with the in-home salesmen than the windows themselves.

SoftLite windows are commonly sold through window dealers which are often little more than sales companies. These companies will generate leads either by knocking on doors or going to home and garden shows or maybe approaching you at a Home Depot, Lowes or Sam’s Club store.

They’ll tell you they’re “working in the neighborhood” or they have a super special promotion available and they’ll ask if you’d like a quote on new windows or siding or a roof.

If you agree to that free quote they send in a well trained commission based in-home salesman to close the deal. These guys can seem great, but they’re sometimes not operating with your best interests in mind.

When they arrive they’ll seem nice, they’ll put your dog and make great small talk. They might say they went to the same school as you or they could have kids in the same program as your kids.

Be cautious because the sales process has already started.

Why are in-home window salesmen bad?

They’re certainly not all bad. I don’t mean to imply that everyone selling windows is out to rip you off, but plenty of them are.

These guys usually drive their own cars for hours to your house. They’ll burn their own gas and waste their own time for $0 if they don’t get you to buy their windows.

That means they can have every incentive to close the deal without a whole lot of concern about whether or not the solution they’re proposing is actually what you need.

For example, I’ve heard of one salesman going on for a long time about the high-quality balances in the windows he sells. The issue was that the customer was buying sliding windows and sliding windows don’t even have balances at all. He was just following his script and selling something that was not going to be delivered.

This can be a funny business.

Other than the pushy salesmen are Soft-Lite windows ok?

They certainly can be. There are some downsides, but you could say that about almost any windows out there.

What about warranty issues?

In addition to Soft-Lite windows complaints about sales people you’ll also sometimes see complaints about warranty coverage.

In my experience this has more to do with the customer not understanding the coverage. For example, there is no warranty coverage for labor to fix an issue or for faulty installation.

So, if the dealer you hire to install your windows screws it all up that’s between you and the dealer. Soft-Lite has nothing to do with it and they would deny any warranty claim. That’s not them being bad guys, it’s just them honoring their written warranty.

For more info on the SoftLite windows warranty check this window warranty review.

Should you buy SoftLite windows?

That’s really up to you. I’m sure there are plenty of Soft-Lite dealers out there who are completely great. I actually know several of them and I do recommend them to readers.

In my opinion there’s no fundamental issue with Soft-Lite windows, but some of their dealers can be less than fantastic.

Their limited dealer network means that there may only be one company in town offering a certain Soft-Lite window model. If that one company doesn’t seem great you should NOT work with them.

What’s the bottom line?

We sometimes hear from readers who have fallen in love with a certain window model, but they don’t like the local dealer. They always ask if they should buy the windows anyway to get the outstanding quality.

That’s an indication that they’ve received a pretty good sales pitch because there are plenty of good windows out there. There’s absolutely no need to work with a company that doesn’t treat you well in the beginning. How do you think they’ll treat you when there’s a problem at the end?

With all that said, if you do find a great dealer of SoftLite windows and you think the prices are fair you’ll likely be perfectly happy with the results.

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Soft-Lite Windows Warranty Review

Here we’ll be looking at the Soft-Lite windows warranty review to see if the warranty on these windows is any good. You’ll hear a lot of claims about window warranties from the commission based in-home salesmen so it’s important to understand what is actually covered, and what is not.

Before we get into that there is another important risk to consider. Soft-Lite is a relatively small window manufacturer which is risky. They were recently purchased by Harvey Industries in New England and that may provide additional stability. I suppose the jury is still out on that.

How long is the Soft-Lite window warranty?

SoftLite advertises this as a lifetime transferable warranty and that’s exactly what it is. The warranty clearly states that it’s good for as long as the original purchases owns and lives in the house.

Soft-Lite window warranty lifetime coverage and limitations.

It’s also transferable one time and then it’s good for as long as the second owner owns and lives in the house. Also, pretty good.

If a competing salesman tells you anything about a lifetime warranty only being good for a certain number of years he’s lying to you. We’ve heard that claim for years and have never seen any documentation to back that up. So that claim in is just a lie in my book.

Are there limitations to the coverage term?

Yes. If you don’t live in the house full time the warranty is only 10 years from installation and it’s not transferable. That’s a big difference. They also state that if the house is used for long or short term rentals the commercial 10-year warranty would apply. They even specifically mention VRBO and AirBNB so if you rent a room on the side your warranty might be very limited. Something to be aware of.

Here’s the relevant section on that limitation:

SolfLite commercial window warranty limitations.

What is covered by the Soft-Lite window warranty?

The coverage of this window warranty is pretty solid. They cover all of the vinyl frames, moving parts and insulted glass for the full term of the warranty. That’s relatively common in this industry, but we do see some window warranties will shorter coverage.

There are some important limitations and you can find those below.

What is not covered?

There are a few important limitations to the SoftLite window warranty. For example, the warranty on the internal blinds is only 10 years. That’s shorter than some other manufacturers, but similar to what many companies offer.

Another important limitation is that shipping of parts or labor to install the new parts is not covered. That means if there was some substantial failure down the road you could still be responsible for a substantial cost to fix it. You’d get the parts for free but the labor and shipping costs could add up.

There is also only 10 year coverage on painted exterior frame. That’s also relatively common.

In addition to that, glass breakage is not covered unless you purchase a glass breakage warranty with the windows. Without that optional warranty the only glass breakage coverage would cover a stress crack within 1 year of installation.

Soft-Lite windows warranty glass breakage coverage.

How do you register and transfer the Soft-Lite windows warranty?

This is an important aspect to note. The Soft-Lite warranty must be registered within 60 days of installation in order to be valid. If you don’t do that you might get no coverage at all.

Also, if you transfer the warranty to the next buyer of the house there’s a $250 fee. The transfer also must be completed within 6 months of the transfer of property ownership. If that step doesn’t happen the new owners would have no warranty at all. Fees for warranty transfer are pretty common, but $250 is on the expensive side

How to transfer your Soft-Lite windows warranty.

What else should you be aware of?

There are a couple more interesting aspects to the warranty. For example, if you have a problem and they deny your claim you can’t sue them. The warranty says you need to pursue your claim through arbitration. And, you need to do it in Ohio.

Arbitration is often confidential so you wouldn’t be able to see what problems other customers have had. They also say you can only enter into arbitration as an individual so there’s no opportunity for a class action claim. We recently saw Renewal by Andersen add this language to their warranty too.

I’m not a lawyer, but this aspect of this warranty doesn’t seem to be great for the customer.

Finally, they note that the foam filled cavities may not actually be filled with foam. That’s been the subject of lawsuits against other window manufacture. These other companies were advertising foam filled windows that were not actually foam filled. It sounds like Soft-Lite is trying to make sure they don’t get sued over that.

Soft-Lite foam filled windows warranty limitations.

What’s the bottom line?

Overall the warranty is perfectly decent. If you’re planning on renting the house or putting it on AirBnb I might suggest looking elsewhere but for an owner occupied house it’s a perfectly good warranty.

It does sound to me like they’re trying to make sure they have ways to deny claims down the road, but I suppose every company does that. Be sure you understand the limitations and requirements and you’ll probably be just fine.

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Sunrise Windows Warranty Review

Understanding the warranty is an important part of buying new windows and this Sunrise windows warranty review is here to help you make sense of the options. We’ll look at the Sunrise warranty to see what is covered and what is not. Understanding the warranty is the best way to avoid disappointment down the road if something goes wrong with your new windows.

How long is the Sunrise windows warranty?

This is a lifetime warranty which means it covers the windows for as long as you own and live in the house. It says that right on the very top of the warranty document. It’s possible a competitor could tell you that a lifetime warranty is only good for 7 years, but that is not true. I’ve never seen any real info to support that claim so I’d avoid any company telling you things like that.

So, the warranty is good for as long as you own the house and it’s also transferable. When you sell the house you can advertise it as coming with a warranty on the windows and that might help your resale value. It can’t hurt anyway.

Note that when the warranty is transferred there is a $150 fee that is to be paid to Sunrise. If that’s not paid promptly I would assume they’re not going to cover the windows down the road. That’s pretty common and I think it’s a way for manufacturers to avoid covering windows down the road.

What is covered by this warranty?

The Sunrise windows warranty covers the window frames, the glass, screens, hardware and moving parts. Overall it’s pretty comprehensive. It even covers their Madera window trim.

What is not covered by the Sunrise windows warranty?

There are a few things that are not covered so you’ll want to be aware of them. First, condensation on the outside of the sealed glass unit is not covered. This could be on the inside of the house or on the outside.

Condensation can occur on a window for a few environmental factors. Usually it’s a result of excess humidity. It could also be an indication of a problem with a window, but the condensation itself is not covered.

They also don’t cover caulking which is pretty common.

In addition there’s no labor coverage which is also pretty common. If you have a problem down the road they’ll provide you with the parts needed, but you’ll need to pay for labor.

What’s the bottom line?

Overall this is a pretty solid window warranty. It’s comparable to what you get from other companies and it’s better than some. We do see the commission based in-home salesmen often being a little misleading with warranty info.

If someone tells you this warranty is “unlimited” or that a lifetime warranty is 7 years you can probably discount everything else they’ve told you. Once these guys lie once you can be sure there’s another one coming.

On the other hand if someone accurately describes what is covered and what is not then they’re being straight with you and that’s a good sign.

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New South Windows Prices

In you’re in the south you may want to know more about New South windows prices. They’re a well known company in FL and the surrounding areas and you may have seen their ads.

We just recently received a quote from New South windows with prices from a reader who was shopping for new windows. There are a few important things to note.

First, I went to their website and saw they were advertising “Buy 2 get 1 free” which is a pretty common window promotion that we’ve written about before. You’ll see that advertised all the time and I think most people know that it’s often not the deal it’s cracked up to be. It would be a 33% discount. How does it compare to the “discount” he actually received? Find out below.

New South windows promotions.

Here’s the actual quote that our reader received. Notice there isn’t much detail, but I’ll share what the customer said was included in this pricing.

Show me the window prices!

The customer told us that there were 14 double hung windows, 1 picture window, 5 half round windows and a 6×8′ patio door included in these New South windows prices.

He also said these are non-impact windows, double pane, low-e glass, etc.

Keep in mind someone might say that my company is a competitor in some markets so it’s up to you to evaluate the options. It’s also important to note that there are many factors that go into calculating replacement window prices. It’s possible that there was more to this quote than we know about. The idea isn’t to focus on the total but on the info it provides.

One thing that really stood out to me was the Manufacturers List Price. $69,000 for these windows sure feels fancy and I would assume nobody pays that much. Then there are the discounts, 40% off for “current promotion”, 5% off for veterans discount and then another $4,000 off for who knows what.

That brings the total down from almost $70k to just over $35k. That turns out to be about 50% off rather than the 33% off that they’re advertising on their website. What a savings!

Are these New South Windows prices a good deal?

I think it’s safe to assume that nobody pays the Manufacturers List Price so why would a company list an inflated number like that? I can only assume it’s to make you feel like $35k is a good deal. The strategy is to plant a high number in your head so the real number feels like a bargain. Did it work?

If you think about this strategy for more than a few minutes it can start to fall apart. For example, if nobody pays the list price then it’s only really there to make you feel better about that actual price. That can feel a little manipulative.

If anyone does ever pay the list price then they’re charging someone $70,000 for a project they could profitably take on for $35,000. That seems like pretty substantial price gouging. A company who would do that to someone may not be a company you’d want to work with.

So, whether or not anyone ever pays the “List Price” it’s a sales strategy right out of the olden days. That probably worked great in 1972. I know everyone says that they’d never buy from a company that uses strategies like this, but these companies sell a whole lot of windows. Someone is buying them every day.

I would suggest that if you get a quote like this you might want to explore your options before committing.

Did this reader receive other quotes and how did they compare?

Yes. He mentioned that he received 2 other quotes. Similar to this quote there isn’t a whole lot of detail listed on them so we’re just taking his word for it. He says one additional quote was about the same amount from a company called Polk County Window and Door, but it included impact windows. Normally switching to impact windows would add a considerable amount to the total cost.

Another was about $8k lower and did not include impact windows. So, the savings can be substantial.

New South windows prices vs Polk County Window and Door.
Here is the competing window prices. You can see the total cost is about the same and it does list impact windows as being included.

I do suggest that you remember there are a lot of variables in window prices and we don’t know for sure that the same types and styles of windows are included in both quotes. But, the second company does seem to be offering a solid deal assuming the rest of the details are the same. The reader who sent in these quotes did tell us that they were both for the same quantity and window styles. It’s impossible to confirm that by looking at these quotes.

In my opinion neither company is doing an outstanding job of writing up a professional quote that is easy to understand. That’s just the way things are sometimes in this business.

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Sunrise Restorations Windows Reviews

The Sunrise Restorations windows are the “top of the line” option from Sunrise. Does that mean they’re great windows or just good marketing? Let’s find out.

First, it’s been claimed that they call these windows “Restorations” because they were designed to look like wood windows to be used in restoration projects. That just feels like sales fluff to me. Many vinyl windows try to look like wood windows, that part makes sense. Unfortunately most historic projects will still require wood windows, vinyl just isn’t the right product for a historic restoration.

That said, vinyl is a great choice vs wood, fiberglass or composite windows in many circumstances. Let’s find out if the Sunrise Restorations windows are the right choice for you.

Sunrise Restorations bay and bow windows.
Here are examples of bay and bow windows. Sunrise offers these in several window lines including Sunrise Restorations.

What are the advantages of Sunrise Restorations windows?

The salesmen selling these windows may tell you a lot of fantastic stories about their greatness. In my experience these windows are usually offered by the most sales focused companies out there.

That doesn’t mean the windows are bad, but it does mean that you’ll want to be careful which stories you believe.

It is true that the Sunrise Restorations windows will use the higher end block and tackle hardware vs the cheaper constant force type used by other companies.

These windows can also be very energy efficient and we’ll have more on that below.

The look of these windows can be a selling point, but it’s pretty subjective. Some customers want a window with many style details and other customers want something that looks more plain and blends into the house. There isn’t really one best option when it comes to style.

Sunrise Restorations windows air infiltration rates.
I’ve always liked this picture from the Sunrise windows brochure. It’s illustrating air infiltration, get it, the air comes in? Get it?

What are the disadvantages?

I would say the biggest downside to the Sunrise Restorations windows will be the price. There’s typically only one company in each city selling these windows. They do this to avoid having two dealers competing with each other. The goal there is to allow the dealer to maximize their profit. That’s good for the dealer but not always good for you.

Are Sunrise Restorations windows energy efficient?

Yes. The Sunrise windows will offer a range of energy efficiency glass packages that will provide perfectly good efficiency ratings. In general all nicer windows will have similar efficiency ratings available. That means one won’t typically be substantially better than another, but these windows will offer good ratings.

The air infiltration ratings for the Sunrise Restorations double hung windows will fall into the same category. The ratings will be perfectly good and in line with options from several manufactures.

Is the Sunrise window warranty any good?

Overall Sunrise does offer a decent window warranty. The fact that they’re a relatively small manufacturer is real. You’ll want to understand that if they were to have a lot of problems and vanish you’d be out of luck. This could happen with any company, but with a small company the risk is greater.

We’ll have a whole post coming out reviewing the Sunrise window warranty soon. When it’s published we’ll link it below.

What’s the bottom line?

Overall the Sunrise Restorations windows are nice windows. They’re usually sold at higher than average prices. It’s my suggestion that you may be able to find a comparable option from another manufacturer at a substantial savings.

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Sunrise Vanguard Windows Reviews

The Sunrise Vanguard windows are typically offered by one dealer in any town. The downside is that there is no competition, there’s nobody else in town offering these windows. That’s not necessarily great for customers.

Of course the very limited distribution doesn’t necessarily mean these windows will be sold at higher than average prices, but it’s a distinct possibility and something to watch out for.

What are the advantages of Sunrise Vanguard windows?

There are some nice advantages to these windows. For example, they use a very strong frame that is designed to hold up for the long run.

They also use the upgraded block and tackle balances in these windows. That’s the type you see in most higher end windows. This would include other popular brands like Okna, Gentek and Preservation to name a few.

Beyond that you’ll see many of the same efficiency options in the Sunrise Vanguard windows that you’ll find in most of their models. They do offer a range of energy efficient options. These will generally have efficiency models similar to other nicer window brands.

What are the disadvantages?

There are also a few downsides to the Sunrise Vanguard windows. For example, they will use a thicker window frame than some other models. That means you’ll see less visible glass area in the same size window when compared to some competing models. This can be a big deal to some folks and it can be less important to others.

Other downsides have more to do with Sunrise as a company rather than the individual Vanguard model.

For example, the limited distribution model may mean that the only company offering Sunrise Vanguard windows in your area is not very pleasant to deal with.

It’s also true that they’re a relatively small manufacturing company that has gone through some management and ownership changes over the last few years. This could be a sign of a problem or it could just be a busy time.

Currently, Sunrise is owned by Mi windows which is a low end producer of vinyl windows. A skeptic might say that they don’t worry about quality so Sunrise will suffer. An optimist might say that they’re a large nationwide company and they bought Sunrise to gain exposure to the fancier end of the market.

What’s the bottom line?

Overall the Sunrise Vanguard window can be a decent choice. It’s a good quality window with high end hardware and good efficiency packages.

The downsides are that you can only buy these windows from one company in town and Sunrise isn’t a very large manufacturer.

If the local company offering these windows is good to work with and offers fair prices you’ll probably be happy with the results. I would NOT suggest dealing with a company that isn’t great just to get these windows. There are plenty of fish in the sea, there’s no reason to over pay or to work with a company that uses the silly sales tactics we talk about here.

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Sunrise Verde Windows Reviews

The Sunrise Verde windows are a decent option. If you’ve been shopping for Sunrise windows you might notice that they offer several models but usually not all through the same dealers.

There might be one dealer in town offering Sunrise Verde windows, another offering Sunrise Essential windows and maybe a third offering Sunrise Essential windows.

The downside there is that the company offering the Sunrise window model that is the best fit for your project might not be a great company to work with. If that’s the case you’re better off finding another window product rather than dealing with a company that isn’t great to work with.

You should definitely not work with a company that treats you poorly just to get a certain window model. There are plenty of fish in the sea.

If the dealer in your town is a great company this isn’t an issue, but it’s something to be aware of.

If you’ve read our other Sunrise windows reviews you’ve seen how happy people are to clean their Sunrise windows. Look how thrilled she is to be cleaning this Sunrise Patio door!

What are the advantages of Sunrise Verde windows?

Like the other Sunrise windows you get the upgraded hardware and components in the Sunrise Verde windows line. That’s the same upgraded type that you’ll see from other nicer brands like Okna, Preservation, Gentek, etc.

I’d say that’s a good sign that Sunrise set out to make higher quality windows than many other companies.

Another advantage of the Sunrise Verde windows is that they come with foam insulation in the frames. This can be a good thing or it can just be an excuse for the salesman to add to the price.

So, whether or not foam in the frames is actually an advantage depends on the cost premium that they’re charging you. If this option is only $5 more than the Sunrise Standard windows without foam that might be a good deal. If it’s $100 more it’s probably a bad deal.

What are the disadvantages?

The disadvantages to the Sunrise Verde windows are similar to the other Sunrise window models. If the local dealer is pushy or expensive or otherwise not great you won’t have any options.

Also, Sunrise was recently purchased by low end window producer Mi windows. I assume they bought Sunrise to get some exposure to the nicer end of the market. If that’s the case, it makes sense.

Sunrise did have some management turnover in recent years which can be a sign of trouble. It’s also possible Mi windows bought them because they were on sale. That would be less of a great sign.

Ultimately Mi has all of the resources to make a nice window without buying Sunrise. Why would they spend the money? We can only guess, but it’s something to be aware of.

Do you get more glass area with Sunrise windows?

It’s possible, but not guaranteed. In other posts we’ve pointed out how Sunrise brochures will often make comparisons that aren’t quite as clear as you might think. We talked about that in relation to the Sunrise warranty here and the Sunrise air infiltration here.

They do the same thing with glass are. Here’s an example from their brochure:

If you just saw this picture you’d think Sunrise windows will obviously provide more glass area than any other window, but that’s not exactly true.

It looks to me like this picture is showing you a Sunrise window vs Alside Ultramaxx. The Alside Ultramaxx windows are a super old design and they do use thick frames.

What Sunrise doesn’t mention here is that there are many other vinyl window options (including some from Alside) that will offer much slimmer frames.

So, it’s true that the Sunrise windows will allow for more glass area than this one other model, but it’s also true that there are many newer windows with slim frames. Sunrise isn’t particularly unique in offering this design.

Is the warranty on Sunrise Verde windows any good?

Yes. The warranty is the same for all Sunrise windows and it’s perfectly decent. If a salesman tells you that it’s super special or that it’s “unlimited” that’s not exactly true, but it is perfectly decent.

They offer a lifetime transferable warranty is the same as you’ll see from many vinyl window manufacturers. It’s certainly longer than the warranty you’ll see from wood or composite windows like Renewal by Andersen.

There are still limitations. For example, the exterior colors are covered against fading for 10 years and if your house burns down that would not be covered by the window warranty.

Overall I think it’s fair to say that the warranty on Sunrise windows is perfectly decent.

How efficient are Sunrise Verde windows?

We’ve talked about the efficiency of Sunrise windows in our other recent reviews. The bottom line is that the efficiency is perfectly good, but often presented in a way that makes them seem better than they might be.

We’ve written about the Sunrise windows air infiltration

in another recent review. Here’s an example using the Sunrise SHGC ratings.

As you can see in the picture above, Sunrise windows are available with a very low SHGC rating. That doesn’t necessarily tell the whole story. For example, a low SHGC rating is actually less efficient in a cold climate where you want heat from the sun in the winter.

The low SHGC rating can also mean the windows have darker glass which can make it feel like you’re always wearing sunglasses. A package like this might make sense in a hot climate but it won’t be the best solution everywhere.

If you’re ordering Sunrise windows you’ll want to talk to the salesperson about the available packages. Remember, lower isn’t always better when it comes to efficiency ratings.

What’s the bottom line?

Overall it’s possible that the Sunrise Verde windows could a good choice. It’s also possible that they could be overpriced. This is due to the distribution model that Sunrise uses where they only sell to one or two companies in any town.

Don’t feel like you’re stuck working with a company that treats you poorly because you have to have Sunrise Verde windows (or any other model). There are lots of great windows out there and there’s no need to feel pressured.

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Sunrise Standard Windows Reviews

The Sunrise Standard windows, also often just called Sunrise windows, are a step up from the cheeper Sunrise Essentials that we reviewed yesterday. That’s a good thing.

They Sunrise standard windows use a nicer window extrusion. That’s the actual vinyl window frame. They’re not as energy efficient as the nicer Sunrise Verde, Vanguard or Restorations windows that we’ll be reviewing in the coming days.

Will these Sunrise windows offer a good balance of quality, efficiency and price? Let’s find out.

Sunrise standard windows reviews, prices, warranty and more.
Look how happy she is to be cleaning her windows. If you buy Sunrise windows you could be that happy to clean your own windows!

What are the advantages of the Sunrise Standard windows?

As with all Sunrise windows you get upgraded block and tackle balances with these windows which are a nice feature. As I mentioned before I think the hardware that companies use can be a good indication of the quality they’re trying to provide.

Since the standard Sunrise windows have the upgraded frame they will be a better solution than the cheaper essentials model. That said they’re still not going to be as nice as the other Sunrise options.

What are the disadvantages?

One disadvantage to this model is that it’s not as efficient as the Sunrise Verde model. That model will come with foam inside the frames and the standard model does not.

Now, readers of the site will know that I often discount the value of foam in the window frames. That hasn’t necessarily changed. The trick is to look at the difference in efficiency and the difference in cost.

For example, if the price of the Sunrise Verde vs the Sunrise Standard is $100 per window different and the difference in U-Factor is 0.01 I’d say that’s not worth it. I would not suggest paying $100 more for a 0.01 improvement in efficiency.

You may not be able to easily compare the options like that for a few reasons.

One is that Sunrise only sells through limited dealers in any town. And, they’ll offer different models through different dealers. That means there’s probably only one company in your town offering each Sunrise window model. If they happen to be great that’s not a problem, but if they’re not great you’ll have no other options.

Another downside is that Sunrise was recently purchased by Mi Windows. They are known to be a low cost window producer. That might make me a little nervous if I were a Sunrise window dealer who is used to selling quality.

Is the Sunrise Standard windows warranty any good?

Yes. We have a full Sunrise windows warranty review coming soon so keep an eye out for that. To offer a quick summary here, the Sunrise windows will come with a lifetime transferable warranty.

Those are terms you’ll hear from most vinyl window manufacturers. It seems almost everyone offers a lifetime transferable warranty. Sunrise does have fewer limitations to their warranty than some other companies so that’s a good thing.

But, check out this picture from a Sunrise sales brochure:

Note that they’re comparing the warranty on Sunrise vinyl windows vs Marvin, Renewal and Andersen windows that are not vinyl. It’s true that wood or composite windows like Renewal by Andersen will often have shorter warranties than vinyl.

It would be a better comparison to look at other nicer vinyl windows. If you were to do that you’d see that the warranties are often pretty similar.

So, I’d say that graphic seems to be a little misleading, but it is true that the Sunrise window warranty is perfectly good.

How efficient are Sunrise windows?

The efficiency options from Sunrise have always been on the better end of the spectrum. As with most vinyl window manufacturers the windows are all custom made and you can pick from several efficiency packages.

When comparing the options you’ll want to take all of the ratings into consideration. The U-Factor is one factor, but there’s also the SHGC, VT, CR and Air Infiltration.

It can seem like a lot to compare, but it’s easier than you might think. For example, if the cold is the mail factor you’ll want to look for a lower U-Factor and a higher SHGC. That’s because you want the heat from the sun to help warm your house in the winter.

If you’re concerned about getting nice light into the house you’ll want windows with a higher VT rating. The lower the VT rating the less light gets into the house.

We’ll often see customer weighing options and focusing on one rating or another without recognizing the whole picture. Would you be happy if you were in a cold climate with windows that don’t let any solar heat through while also blocking a lot of light? I’d say probably not. Packages like that are better for very hot climates, but we see them offered in Detroit or Cleveland or Boston and that makes basically no sense.

What about Sunrise windows air infiltration rates?

Similar to the way they presented the warranty info, the info on Sunrise windows air infiltration rates is also pushing the envelope a little.

Sunrise windows air infiltration.

Here’s another chart from a Sunrise brochure. Note they’re comparing their windows with Andersen 400 series wood windows and then a mystery competitors vinyl window.

I’d say that’s not the most clear info since there are many other vinyl windows with air infiltration rates very similar to Sunrise. Generally speaking we tend to suggest looking for a double hung window with an air infiltration rate under 0.05 and there are plenty of choices in that range. So the rating here is perfectly good, but not as remarkable as this graphic might lead you to believe.

What’s the bottom line?

Overall the basic Sunrise Standard windows could be a good choice. I would suggest you’ll want to compare a few other options and also evaluate the efficiency packages. If you’d like us to look over your quote and offer suggestions you can find our Quote Review service here. Note, it’s completely free.

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Real Renewal by Andersen Prices

If you’re looking for Renewal by Andersen prices you’ve come to the right place.

If you’ve recently received a quote for Renewal by Andersen windows we need your help! Comment below to let us know you have a quote to share.

Window prices have been a little volatile lately and it can be harder than ever to get an understanding of what windows really cost. A little more transparency will go a long way towards making this business easier to navigate. So, share your Renewal by Andersen quotes with our readers here.

Here are Renewal by Andersen prices from a reader in Colorado.

This quote was sent in from a reader in Colorado. It shows Renewal by Andersen prices for a 5 window order. There are three pages so stay with me.

Renewal by Andersen prices page 1

Renewal by Andersen prices page 2

As you can see in the quote above the original cost for 5 white double hung windows was $17,686 or over $3500 per window. Then, this lucky customer was offered a discount of over $4k which must have made his day.

The final price was $13,039 for the 5 windows or a per window cost of $2,607. That’s a pretty hefty price, but it’s in line with what we would expect to see from Renewal by Andersen. Note that there are grids between the glass and tempered glass included on some windows and features like that do add to the cost.

Are these Renewal by Andersen prices any good?

If you’re shopping for windows you can see pricing that is all over the map. Renewal by Andersen will tend to be one of the most expensive options around. They also have a shorter warranty than you get from many vinyl window companies and we’ve heard that the air infiltration rates will be much worse than many vinyl windows.

Whether or not they’re the right company for you is a little subjective. The windows can look very nice and for some people that might be worth the trade off of higher prices. I would tend to suggest you can find a better value elsewhere but that’s just my opinion. Your mileage may vary.

Do you have a window quote that you’d like to share?

Let us know! Post a comment below and we’ll send you an email to touch base. You can send in Renewal by Andersen prices or prices from any other window company. If you’ve received multiple quotes send them all and everyone will benefit.

I’m sure our other readers will find that info to be invaluable as they’re trying to navigate this business.

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